tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post91198494020432593..comments2023-06-10T20:22:01.348+08:00Comments on The Society of Honor by Joe America: The EU and the PhilippinesThe Society of Honorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-90324518954992347012011-12-05T10:31:28.693+08:002011-12-05T10:31:28.693+08:00Proud Pinoy:
You were born at the wrong time. Yo...Proud Pinoy: <br /><br />You were born at the wrong time. You could have ended up as a decorated comrade during the Bolshevik revolution: fighting against the imperialistic elements!Attilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06669976067539551920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-59138939015124308762011-12-03T20:26:37.515+08:002011-12-03T20:26:37.515+08:00I mentioned India in passing and you go ballistic ...I mentioned India in passing and you go ballistic over it's level of poverty, the caste system and go so far as to have me worship Ganesh; even so, it's undeniable that their economy is growing in leaps and bounds while our very own puny economy is still groping its way out of its dark and clammy shell. One more thing, the Indus valley civilization was already in the world map at the time your ancestors were still living on treetops and eating geckoes. <br /><br />Nothing is more absurd than to be blinded, nay, deluded by your false Pinoy pride. You live with it, I won't.bubi78https://www.blogger.com/profile/01628346177706259596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-37342581649071875292011-12-03T16:32:52.601+08:002011-12-03T16:32:52.601+08:00@Pastor Ernie:
Thanks for introducing me to Panthe...@Pastor Ernie:<br />Thanks for introducing me to Pantheism. I wasn't aware that such an idea existed until you had mistaken me for one.<br /><br />Just to humor you, no, my belief system does not fall into that one if google's top 3 results were correct.<br /><br />My beliefs are my own, I've thought of them after observing several religious groups/people. I've observed that they're trying to teach me the same basic values except for 3 things; How to worship the main deity, how treat those of different faiths, and how to react when others think differently; the last one only observed, not actually taught.<br />I don't think it's silly to believe that the bible is the word of God, I just don't think any of its current versions is correct. When humans begin interpreting it, some minor details will always be changed for various reasons, maybe personal, economic, political, or even political correctness. Another problem is that all these bibles have been translated over and over. Assuming that even if all the words are correctly translated, the meaning will still be lost because of the differences of the cultures of the readers.<br /><br />@Proud Pinoy:<br />Foreigner owned companies are already in the country, some of them have locally owned subsidiaries, others have puppet owners.<br />I know there is an anxiety related to land ownership but there are much better ways to prevent a shortage of Filipino owned land than outright making it illegal.<br />Also, it's about time we urbanize some of our other regions. If our own government won't make more urban/industrial hubs away from NCR, maybe foreign companies can help. I believe our land and our people have a lot of untapped potential. Isn't about time we use it?<br /><br />[Sucks to not be able to find the edit button]AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18330612535269643094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-85944520684279705952011-12-03T15:39:35.410+08:002011-12-03T15:39:35.410+08:00Yeah India that country which has more than 40% of...Yeah India that country which has more than 40% of its population below the poverty line. If you consider India's population, a third of the WORLD's poor actually comes from India.<br /><br />Have you ever been to India? Do you like their Caste System? How about their Hindu Polytheistic nonsense. But I digress, perhaps you DO want to worship an blue god with an elephant's head.<br /><br />But you entire argument is flawed. Aren't we all tired of people saying X country did this and it worked so the Philippines should do it also. Yeah the whole world needs American-style democracy too. Just see how Iraq and Afghanistan is doing right? So lets shove democracy down Libya, Yemen, Syria, and Iran.<br /><br />Each country is unique with a cultural complexity that took hundreds (if not thousands) of years to form. People who suggest a playbook that worked for a VERY DIFFERENT culture will work for another are just simply ignorant and retarded, like you.<br /><br />I know, I know. You are going to bring up Singapore, Vietnam, and all the other Asian Miracles. Yeah keep telling yourself that buddy but at the end of the day the Philippines will continue to be run THE PINOY WAY. Deal with it.Proud Pinoynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-68274891752531073132011-12-03T13:53:49.947+08:002011-12-03T13:53:49.947+08:00Proud Pinoy
I see nothing wrong with multi-na...Proud Pinoy<br /><br /> I see nothing wrong with multi-national companies coming into our country, in fact it is foreign direct investments (FDI) that is fueling the economies of other ASEAN countries. India just recently opened its retail industry to foreign companies amid so much controversy and over the protest of the local retailers. The government of India has taken a bold and decisive step forward while we remain stuck in the rut that the NEPA QMart mentality has had created for us. It was in the mid 50's when our economy took the train into the long dark tunnel of protectionism and we have yet to emerge from it until now.<br /> You will have me eat pagpag when I can eat steak. Come off it man, the time of "capitalismo, imperialismo...ibagsak!" have long been relegated to the dustbin of history. And, I will not be swayed by the drivel that the mainstream media is foisting on us. No siree, I can think for myself, thank you.bubi78https://www.blogger.com/profile/01628346177706259596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-49177372525538538312011-12-02T17:18:46.256+08:002011-12-02T17:18:46.256+08:00I guess I have to be hard-hitting to stir up debat...I guess I have to be hard-hitting to stir up debate, with comments from a Christian, an uber-patriot, and a Muslim. Here is my response to each.<br /><br />Good Pastor. I don't think worshipping the God of your faith is silly. It is admirable if it leads you to do good deeds for all mankind, not just those of your faith. I suspect that if you asked Bill Clinton and Barak Obama how their God differs from the Muslim God, they would say "He doesn't; there is only one God". That is my belief. I think all the angst and anger stirred up by competing religions is unfortunate. A tragedy. And an insult to our human intellect. I believe that God, in his infinite mystery, is a lot more loving than most of us comprehend as we behave in less than loving ways.<br /><br />Proud Pinoy, I don't aspire to be one of "you" Pinoys in general and, for sure, not "you" in the specific. I merely seek to spend my time on earth well, without being crammed into any box that others, such as yourself, would try to jam me. I am American by citizenship, love for the ideals and essential goodness of the nation, and respect for the many caring, courageous and intelligent Americans I have met. I live in the Philippines and am fascinated by why Filipinos don't do a better job of caring for their own. I choose not to sit idle and waste my life away, so I take an interest in my surroundings, and blog.<br /><br />bubi78, I think it is the reluctance of one Muslim to restrain another Muslim that is the main argument for a separate nation, for those of us of a different (or broader) faith, are not inclined to see ourselves as the enemy of God. I am reminded of a trite old saying that "good fences make good neighbors". I frankly think separatism would be an economic disaster for Mindanao, and wish more Muslims would swear an oath to the Philippines that they would strive to uphold, maybe with even only 50% of their religious fervor.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-63608611951176343672011-12-02T15:04:47.131+08:002011-12-02T15:04:47.131+08:00bubi78,
Mr. Joe Imperialist is on a mission do un...bubi78,<br /><br />Mr. Joe Imperialist is on a mission do undermine the Philippines. He already blogged about his desire for multinational corporations to enter the Philippines which could essentially wipe out all local businesses and enslave us to foreign capitalists.<br /><br />Now he is using his ultra-liberal ideology to split the Philippines apart along religious lines. We will not fall for this nonsense. Mindanao will always be part of the Philippines and I find it quite insulting that, after all the blood spilled by our ancestors to build this great nation, some ignorant outsider would just come in and suggest to break it apart.<br /><br />Joe America Says: "You can't serve two masters. Only one."<br /><br />But ask yourself: Who does Joe America serve?<br /><br />Answer: The United States of America, of course.<br /><br />So why should the Philippines listen to someone who does not have its loyalty. <br /><br />He is simply fooling himself (but not us) into thinking that he can ever be "one of us". A Filipino can be an American BUT an American can never be a Pinoy. Just like a Chinese can be an American But an American can never be Chinese.Proud Pinoynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-47554018627607506622011-12-02T12:37:20.681+08:002011-12-02T12:37:20.681+08:00Sir, it would help if we backtrack to 9/11. While ...Sir, it would help if we backtrack to 9/11. While the rest of the world were aghast and in anguish over the horrific tragedy, while the rest of the world were one in their condemnation of the despicable acts perpetrated by even more despicable bigots, we cut in on scenes of jubilant crowds of Muslims from around the world cheering, dancing and chanting in the streets; ironically, the Muslim world was one in commemorating a victory over the most hated infidel nation, the US of A. Nary a squeak was raised to condemn the barbaric acts; not from a moderate Muslim anyway.<br /><br />Fast track to the present, here and now; no moderate Muslim will dare go against or, so much as, rein in his murderous brethren. That is anathema in their culture. Woe unto him who turns against his Muslim brethren, the most terrible fate, worse than that meted to an infidel, awaits him; moreover, his family will not be spared the scorn and the humiliation. Remember Salman Rushdie?<br /><br />You posited two choices. One is to maintain the status quo and the other is to create an independent Muslim state. The internecine conflict will still rear its ugly head, notwithstanding, whatever of your choices shall come to pass; I imagine it would be worse if an independent Muslim state were to be created. Reminiscent of what happened in the partitioning of the Indian sub-continent during the late 40’s, there will be a mad scramble, an exodus really, to evacuate to a safe haven, there will be mass hysteria as rumors will go unchecked, and, yes, there be ethnic cleansing. It would be a sad day indeed for all of us here in Mindanao. <br /><br />I fear for the future and await for the outcome of the latest peace negotiations with bated breath and with a prayer on my lips. Have a pleasant day to you sir.<br /><br />Oh, by the way, I am not going to wade in on your debate with the good pastor; suffice it to say that the God of Abraham is the God of Mohammad. Amen.bubi78https://www.blogger.com/profile/01628346177706259596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-18834458863529015972011-12-02T10:01:31.332+08:002011-12-02T10:01:31.332+08:00AJ,
So you are a Pantheist? Be so at you own risk...AJ,<br /><br />So you are a Pantheist? Be so at you own risk. But I ask you: where do you get your beliefs from? Do you simply google it or hit wikipedia?<br /><br />My beliefs are from the Holy Bible, The Word of God. If you find this silly, consider that more than a billion people believe the Holy Bible to be true. Before you ridicule us also consider that many intelligent Historical Figures, Scientists, and every modern US President has declared himself to be a Christian.<br /><br />Joe,<br /><br />What exactly did AJ Nail? He just issued his own opinion. My Christian beliefs, on the other hand, are backed by a billion people. In fact, your beloved Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are "Christians" who were sworn in office with their hand placed on the Holy Bible.<br /><br />So its okay to dismiss my beliefs but why do these great US Presidents also follow the teachings of Christ? Are they silly as well?<br /><br />The truth is, you are engaging in "double-think". When it is okay to dismiss me as a Christian, but not a billion other people who also believe that our Lord JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US FROM OUR SINS so that we may enter the kingdom of heaven.<br /><br />I will pray for the two of you lost souls.<br /><br />God bless.Pastor Ernienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-21971840905203826492011-12-02T05:07:35.301+08:002011-12-02T05:07:35.301+08:00AJ, well said. I was grappling with how to respond...AJ, well said. I was grappling with how to respond but now I don't have to. You nailed it.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-76028517670364174152011-12-01T22:57:30.134+08:002011-12-01T22:57:30.134+08:00@Pastor Ernie:
Sorry dude but you seem to have ins...@Pastor Ernie:<br />Sorry dude but you seem to have insulted all non-christians out there.<br /><br />I agree with Joe, God is known by many names and worshiped in many ways.<br /><br />Conceptually, faith teaches us good things but once we try implementing the teachings, we begin to argue among ourselves<br /><br />The problems come in when we start to feel a sense of exclusivity and our ego comes in, telling us that whoever believes differently from us is wrong.<br /><br />One belief I have is that the creator, whoever He or She or It is, has blessed us with the power of the mind and free will.<br /><br />With that power, we make choices and take responsibility for them. So here are my final four words my good sir.<br />Burn and let burn.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18330612535269643094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-42894638573807392212011-12-01T17:16:53.991+08:002011-12-01T17:16:53.991+08:00Joe, my good man, I strongly disagree. The Bible i...Joe, my good man, I strongly disagree. The Bible is the Word of God. The New Testament tells the way of salvation. These muslims are reading the wrong book. They are following the wrong path. <br /><br />It is either you believe the Word of God as it is written in The Bible or you do not. If you DO NOT then I fear for your immortal soul dear brother. I shall pray for you.<br /><br />God Bless.Pastor Ernienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-1197213719627315352011-12-01T16:04:12.465+08:002011-12-01T16:04:12.465+08:00Good Pastor, I think God is constant across all be...Good Pastor, I think God is constant across all beliefs, and there is no such thing as a false faith. It is the persistence of our manly evil that we ought to work to expunge.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-53035178538923516712011-12-01T12:02:31.934+08:002011-12-01T12:02:31.934+08:00You misdiagnose the problem dear brother. The true...You misdiagnose the problem dear brother. The true problem with Muslim Mindanao is that they are worshiping the Wrong God. So the solution is not a political/structural but rather a spiritual one. We Christians must share the Truth to our deceived brothers. <br /><br />They must know that God loves us so much that he sacrificed his only son, our Lord Jesus Christ, to save us from our sins so that we may enter the kingdom of heaven. <br /><br />This is the only way to bring peace and love into our land. Following a false faith only leads to hate, suffering and an infinite afterlife burning in hell.Pastor Ernienoreply@blogger.com