tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post7986360192801840418..comments2023-06-10T20:22:01.348+08:00Comments on The Society of Honor by Joe America: The Philippine's Reach is Too Short to GraspThe Society of Honorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-20592971919377094482011-08-17T07:53:43.653+08:002011-08-17T07:53:43.653+08:00Oh! another thought... Seems like the enlightenmen...Oh! another thought... Seems like the enlightenment/age of reason, never (hopefully, hasn't) reached the Philippines. Seems like the closest that we got was Jose Rizal and his buddies when they were in Europe.<br />Filipinos are able to follow traffic laws and courtesy when they are in another country. Looks like a system/culture that encourages thought would be beneficial.kangkunganhttp://google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-81033643991878032672011-08-16T16:54:57.611+08:002011-08-16T16:54:57.611+08:00kangkungan,
Chris Rock is about the funniest nast...kangkungan,<br /><br />Chris Rock is about the funniest nasty dude in America. He and George Carlin. Now THERE are a couple of unrestrained minds.<br /><br />Indeed some people with a built-in curiosity can overcome an education built on compliance. However, I rather suspect there are millions who could do better with a little help. They deserve the opportunity.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-52004201148170811342011-08-16T12:05:52.988+08:002011-08-16T12:05:52.988+08:00The educational system is a factor of course. But ...The educational system is a factor of course. But I think culture of the community may be more influential. Even in the US there are professions or skills that are associated with certain ethnicities. Jewish doctors, Asians being good at math, etc. I remember a stand up routine of Chris Rock where he points out how black culture value being a tough thug more than being brainy. It went something like "so you graduated college, so you're smart, so do you know... do you know... do you know if I can kick your ass?".<br />Then there's the culture within the family which is even more influential I think. It's the parents job to teach kids the value of education and hard work. Of course if the parents don't see the value of those things then ignorance and poverty will be a family tradition. Even if one ancestor was really rich if he/she didn't teach the next generations to take care or generate wealth then eventually they will be poor. The value of learning English is also something that the parents decide. My parents decided it for me and I'm deciding it for my kid. Access to information requires less effort for me because of this.<br />Then there's just people who are curious. I was the one who previously mentioned that curiosity is the only thing that limits knowledge in the google era. I went through the educational system that was all about compliance and memorization. Most people experienced the same thing. But then there are those who decided to be curious and to search for knowledge themselves just for the hell of it.kangkunganhttp://google.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-83715558311360493822011-08-16T05:21:15.716+08:002011-08-16T05:21:15.716+08:00MB,
Yes, that's true. I think memorizing date...MB,<br /><br />Yes, that's true. I think memorizing dates is less important than understanding the dynamics that brought us to where we are. My recollection of history is memorizing dates that meant nothing because I had no context, being a young doofus with no history himself. Now that I am older and see the dynamics at work, it is meaningful. Somehow the nation's roots need to be presented in a way that young people, without roots, can grasp the meaning.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-56764397743991001002011-08-16T01:37:27.053+08:002011-08-16T01:37:27.053+08:00I recognize that education in the sciences etc. ar...I recognize that education in the sciences etc. are vital to technological advances. But at the same time, there is also a need to be aware of one's roots. Western Europe, the US, and the Asian powerhouses did not have to turn their backs on their roots to advance technologically. American leaders, for example, are always citing judeo-christian roots and the wisdom and farsightedness of its founding fathers as the fountain from which all of America as we know it sprang, So yes to your curriculum but don't pull out the roots.manuelbuencaminonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-59111874090660759122011-08-15T20:37:13.427+08:002011-08-15T20:37:13.427+08:00We can't deny that foreigners still thrive in ...We can't deny that foreigners still thrive in our universities here to study. whether it's for quality education or cheap tuition fees, or both, it would be best to ask those students personally. On the contrary, students here who recognize good education would kill for an opportunity to study abroad, which somehow I believe is part of your point. anyhow, for the moment at least, we could expect a timid approach to your challenge. But with the 'right people' with an eye for potential, ideas like these are anything but crazy.<br /><br />It's funny, if we could place your ideas and the present educational system side by side, it's like having an abacus and a computer...1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-51082857623880629152011-08-15T19:49:43.871+08:002011-08-15T19:49:43.871+08:00ps. It is interesting. The biggest barrier at the ...ps. It is interesting. The biggest barrier at the outset is how "far-fetched" the vision is. No leader would take the risk of being laughed at for such wild and crazy ideas. He must be conservative so as not to shock the donors and the risk averse. It would have to fall to the youth of the Philippines to demand more. Much more. Or maybe the parents of young kids who see the mediocrity of where their kids are heading.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-8804128402188040752011-08-15T19:41:49.269+08:002011-08-15T19:41:49.269+08:001DC, I'll say the ideas are farfetched myself....1DC, I'll say the ideas are farfetched myself. But the vision is how to move from behind to in front, and it can't happen on a wish and a prayer. US President Kennedy decided to send an American to the moon. I don't see why the Philippines can't be world class in its education system. You don't flip all the schools in the land to a new world order overnight, but you start with the first school, refine the model, and push it out as fast as you can.<br /><br />And yes, morals and values should be added to the curriculum. Good idea.<br /><br />I have more ideas about how to implement a striking leadership educational program and will write of them soon. When anyone says "yeah, but" to throw cold water on it, the challenge is to figure out how to overcome the problem. That's how Neil Armstrong got to the moon.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-80257804587892797542011-08-15T17:40:33.574+08:002011-08-15T17:40:33.574+08:00Move over Luistro...
Jesus, Joe! talk about '...Move over Luistro...<br /><br />Jesus, Joe! talk about 'far out' & 'thinking outside the box.' you've certainly outdone yourself there pal.<br /><br />quite ambitious i must say. we're talking about a complete overhaul of the entire educational system of the country here...<br /><br />do you suppose those dominant countries are already exploiting such ideas similar to yours?<br /><br />For a country still trying to recover from adulteration, with its people basically still struggling to live through the day, starting with the basics is what should be prioritized. I'm not saying your ideas are far-fetched, some may actually be feasible, and others, prone to scrutiny, which makes you wonder: while we do need to equip ourselves with the proper knowledge to be as competitive as possible, the 'seas' and the 'soil' will be abused continuously unless an overhaul of our future rulers' morals is in place. I suggest a topic or two about morality and values to be added in your curriculum there, Joe. <br /><br />but damn, wouldn't that be the day.1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.com