tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post7971037129709172829..comments2023-06-10T20:22:01.348+08:00Comments on The Society of Honor by Joe America: Ilda and Gender IssuesThe Society of Honorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-13063703741644961282012-04-26T13:14:44.635+08:002012-04-26T13:14:44.635+08:00Love ya, Joe! - patrioticflipLove ya, Joe! - patrioticflipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-3704145780213783672012-04-26T07:34:59.407+08:002012-04-26T07:34:59.407+08:00Yes, you have to watch out for those sneaky Filipi...Yes, you have to watch out for those sneaky Filipinas. They worm their way into your life and make you fall in love.<br /><br />"I never been criticized by American friends but Filipinos only."<br /><br />When you've been here a while, you recognize this as a pattern about everything, not just your selection of women. It will be the size of your house or the color, or why you served THAT dish, or anything that lets the observer stand tall as having better eyes and taste than you do.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-47304796125469140632012-04-26T00:58:46.989+08:002012-04-26T00:58:46.989+08:00I have been invited to visit the Philippines by a ...I have been invited to visit the Philippines by a friend. It took me at least 15 yrs before I decided to go. My ex did not like the idea of visiting a 3rd world country with a bad reputation. I went to Cebu and Negros where I was a guest and that is where I met my fiance. I have a very positive experience with Filipinas but I'm not naive about my "success". I know why I'm liked. I understand the culture I know the values and the thinking. In the Philippines they like me for being a "white tall gwapo kano". I believe it is a racist country, however I'm the beneficiary of it and I'm aware why I'm liked. I don't have illusions. My guard is up from understanding why a Filipina is under pressure from her family to get support out of her Kano. I'm happy being with brown ethnic Filipinas who are considered to be ugly by many Filipino man. I enjoy their company and beauty. They are the warmest women I ever known. Funny how I was criticized by a few Filipinos of not having a good taste for choosing my fiance. I never been criticized by American friends but Filipinos only.Attilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06669976067539551920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-80062116462807823112012-04-25T21:03:36.735+08:002012-04-25T21:03:36.735+08:00"And I am so appalled by all this speculation..."And I am so appalled by all this speculation about Ilda's personal life."<br />Can you blame the public for being too curious of someone who writes such exceptional articles? From one misled reader to another, I'm sure Ilda wouldn't mind the extra attention; in fact, I think everyone in GRP craves for it.1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-91912222917686612812012-04-25T19:44:43.057+08:002012-04-25T19:44:43.057+08:00Amen to this. Nice reply, MB.Amen to this. Nice reply, MB.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-57773938887904786792012-04-25T19:43:10.875+08:002012-04-25T19:43:10.875+08:00Nice reply.:-)Nice reply.:-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-30333811626148271182012-04-25T19:22:26.087+08:002012-04-25T19:22:26.087+08:00@Anonymous
Maybe you should read the article agai...@Anonymous<br /><br />Maybe you should read the article again because if that is the only thing you got from Ilda's article, then you obviously have low comprehension skills. Most of the commenters at GRP discussed so many insight compared to the commenters here. You guys are pathetic.<br /><br />Wow Google and Facebook told you? That's amazing. I think only people with too much time on their hands for unproductive things will believe you. Ha ha.<br /><br />Most Filipinos are stupid. This is evident in PNoy's win in the last election. They are just stating facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-55812780924736396882012-04-25T18:22:54.118+08:002012-04-25T18:22:54.118+08:00"I think it is all Joe's fault for mislea..."I think it is all Joe's fault for misleading everyone. Goes to show he's got malice."<br /><br />Right, I wake up each morning and figure out what evil I can do today . . . like break stereotypical thinking, expand the box, learn from others . . . pure dastardly evil. And then I recruit people to my blog site and brainwash them so they can't think for themselves.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-57670748054779480662012-04-25T17:14:12.894+08:002012-04-25T17:14:12.894+08:00"The readers of this blog has completely take..."The readers of this blog has completely taken Ilda's article out of context."<br /><br />It's Ilda making an issue out of a non-issue. Filipinas marrying foreigners is simply a case of women, and men, who marry who they want to marry.<br /><br />"I mean, what is your proof that she is married to benign0 anyway?"<br /><br />Two words: Google and Facebook.<br /><br />"The GRP peeps are right about his hypocrisy."<br /><br />The GRP people are the ones who are guilty of hypocrisy. They are guilty of the very things they are accusing the Filipinos (stupidity, rudeness, etc.).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-52140195397492452992012-04-25T16:51:36.712+08:002012-04-25T16:51:36.712+08:00The readers of this blog has completely taken Ilda...The readers of this blog has completely taken Ilda's article out of context. I think it is all Joe's fault for misleading everyone. Goes to show he's got malice. The GRP peeps are right about his hypocrisy.<br /><br />And I am so appalled by all this speculation about Ilda's personal life. I mean, what is your proof that she is married to benign0 anyway? And what is the big deal? Just because they are both writing for GRP? Puro kayo tsismoso! Shame on you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-59225238549316836082012-04-25T06:20:50.913+08:002012-04-25T06:20:50.913+08:00brianitus, "empowerment". Okay, yes, I u...brianitus, "empowerment". Okay, yes, I understand your point. I think there are three variables. (1) The economy, and the number and quality of jobs it can present, (2) education, and (3) resourcefulness. The latter is the discipline and effort and willingness to take risks to find a job that is fulfilling. There would be more opportunities if the Philippine economy were deeper. It is broad but thin. So there are not many quality jobs even for well-educated people. There indeed ARE jobs for resourceful, educated people.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-81090512046824554422012-04-25T04:46:29.304+08:002012-04-25T04:46:29.304+08:00Yes, MB pretty well hit the nail on that, eh?
I ...Yes, MB pretty well hit the nail on that, eh? <br /><br />I touched on my becoming attracted to Asian cultures, and the women who occupy them, in a brief summary in the comments above (to 1DC). The practical means was a web site at the time called "Asian Euro" (called something different now, I think).The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-29564487890713832992012-04-25T04:23:59.852+08:002012-04-25T04:23:59.852+08:00i liked Mb's comment. but joe, maybe you can s...i liked Mb's comment. but joe, maybe you can share your own love story? how did u and ur wife meet?GabbyDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-16664894803028454112012-04-25T00:06:20.706+08:002012-04-25T00:06:20.706+08:00"a phenomenon that is more of an exception th..."a phenomenon that is more of an exception than the rule"<br />Well said.<br />"It is a non-issue because the numbers involved are too small to be called a pattern hence worthy of generalization."<br />Damn, you're good.1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-41536908700524551422012-04-24T23:55:06.246+08:002012-04-24T23:55:06.246+08:00"Away from Filipino men" when read toget..."Away from Filipino men" when read together with "why do some filipinas turn their romantic eyes to westerners..." leads me to ask what about those filipinas who marry foreigners, period? Over the last couple of decades, because of the OFW phenomenon, a lot of filipinas have married japanese, middle eastern, indian, chinese, korean and other non-caucasian men.<br /><br />The conversation on filipinas marrying westerners and the obsession with white skin reminds me of the controversy over successful black men and white women, usually blondes. It is a similar phenomenon in that many women in the black community see it as black men turning their romantic eyes to white women and away from black women. <br /><br />Filipinas marrying westerners and successful black men marrying white women attract a lot of attention but if one looks at the big picture, at the total number of mixed marriages versus same race marriages then Ilda is making a big thing about exceptions to the rule, just like those black women who complain about successful blacks marrying whites.<br /><br />It is a non-issue. One can make the same case for Filipinas marrying men of other races. The mixed marriages could have happened because the filipina was working or studying in the man's country. Or she could have met the man through the web and in that case english speaking males have a headstart communicating with filipinas. There are a lot of reasons for filipinas marrying into other races other than just some defect in filipino males or an obsession with white skin. And then there are the filipino males who marry westerners and women of other races. Is that an indication of some defect in filipinas?<br /><br />I think the phenomenon is simply a case of women, and men, who marry who they want to marry when they want to marry regardless of race, creed, culture, or politics but some nose counter collects "data" and then some sociologist reads the numbers and proceeds to identify a trend or a pattern of behavior and then makes some over-arching general conclusion on a phenomenon that is more of an exception than the rule. <br /><br />It is a non-issue because the numbers involved are too small to be called a pattern hence worthy of generalization.manuelbuencaminonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-25199651754450558802012-04-24T22:57:13.071+08:002012-04-24T22:57:13.071+08:00Thanks Joe for clearing that up. I guess brianitus...Thanks Joe for clearing that up. I guess brianitus and I would sleep soundly tonight...<br /><br />brianitus, you know what's disturbing about I1da? It's the tag line she uses... Either she's a decepticon or someone who has gender issues...1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-39027983467227055292012-04-24T22:24:24.670+08:002012-04-24T22:24:24.670+08:00I wanted to ask you the same question. I mean, wh...I wanted to ask you the same question. I mean, who's that girl? Great smile ha.<br /><br />As for Ilda, I think she has a photo on her twitter account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-56603904656045910552012-04-24T22:22:04.219+08:002012-04-24T22:22:04.219+08:00Opportunism and good use of a spreadsheet...=)
la...Opportunism and good use of a spreadsheet...=)<br /><br />lack of opportunity, that's usually from lack of education -- empowerment, maybe that's word I'm looking for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-91622831682758748472012-04-24T21:28:10.915+08:002012-04-24T21:28:10.915+08:00@joe: "Ms. Anon, independent, brown-skinned. ...@joe: "Ms. Anon, independent, brown-skinned. You are different, an exception, which makes you exceptional, in my book."<br /><br />Just goes to show you - values cannot be confined to a specific ethnicity or social class.<br /><br />And if ilda really believes that foreign men are good and Filipino men are lousy, how come she married benign0? Isn't she shooting herself in the foot with that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-35778279414043704022012-04-24T21:05:42.098+08:002012-04-24T21:05:42.098+08:00brianitus, I'd say lack of OPPORTUNITY for a r...brianitus, I'd say lack of OPPORTUNITY for a real life is what contributes to marrying to escape . . . it is not so much what they are running FOR, as what they are running AWAY FROM.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-59765460945486814802012-04-24T21:02:06.999+08:002012-04-24T21:02:06.999+08:001DC, you are hot tonight.
"glutathione ingec...1DC, you are hot tonight.<br /><br />"glutathione ingectables" ahahahahaha, cracked me up.<br /><br />"guts of steel and a whole lot of skin . . ." crackup number two<br /><br />The girl is NOT Ilda. ROTFLMAO for 10 minutes. I don't know who she is, as I just grabbed her from an image search. For some reason she positively jumped off the page and into my eyeball. Her smile is like my wife's. Maybe that's it . . .The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-12150279780970113572012-04-24T20:54:46.458+08:002012-04-24T20:54:46.458+08:00@Anonymous:
"Love knows no race". Couldn...@Anonymous:<br />"Love knows no race". Couldn't agree with you more on this one.<br /><br />'passing off stereotypes'<br />indeed, taking a thin slice from a huge thing such as the truth, or the perception of it, and turning it into an entirely different thing has turned out to be more than a habit for those guys... and they are willing to defend it unconditionally. What's worse is that contradictions aren't always welcomed from other sources such as us. So again, amen to that, sister.<br /><br />"Let race get in the way"<br />To be honest, race is just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. Other obstacles are dangling behind, such as language barriers, customs, traditions, norms, morals. <br /><br />When was the last time you saw an odd couple: a gal from the province shadowing a foreign partner? Let's be honest, people around them do stare, and all for the wrong reasons. Is it because they don't pair up that well? Perhaps. Is it a simple case of poor taste for the foreigner? I don't know. But impressions are what observers go with, and they can't help but be judgmental most of the times. But like what you've said, stereotyping something and claiming it as the truth isn't always a good thing, generally.1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-71525606204823033292012-04-24T20:39:57.403+08:002012-04-24T20:39:57.403+08:00Joe, btw, who's the one in the picture? don...Joe, btw, who's the one in the picture? don't tell me it's I1da.1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-26553563892039905552012-04-24T20:33:47.416+08:002012-04-24T20:33:47.416+08:00"Fate gave me a Filipina..."
Joe, I sure..."Fate gave me a Filipina..."<br />Joe, I sure hope your wife is taking this with an open mind.<br /><br />But wasn't there a time when you said to yourself: "Man, what am I doing? Shouldn't I go back to Uncle Sam's farm?" Or "I wonder how my old gal is doing back home?"1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-34084218364981302712012-04-24T20:21:02.415+08:002012-04-24T20:21:02.415+08:00"lazy and irresponsible decision"
True.
..."lazy and irresponsible decision"<br />True.<br />"...wide is the path that leads into temptation." <br />But seriously, I think, 'opportunism' would be a more appropriate term when marrying someone for money. No educational level required; all that's needed is guts of steel and a whole lot of skin, er, exposed flesh...1DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15562476653572543721noreply@blogger.com