tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post7269636047353433959..comments2023-06-10T20:22:01.348+08:00Comments on The Society of Honor by Joe America: Electioneering and the Blogging ForeignerThe Society of Honorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-61978383045086064572013-03-18T04:13:53.869+08:002013-03-18T04:13:53.869+08:00"When in fact both their perspectives are jus..."When in fact both their perspectives are just slightly off-center."<br /><br />I did a double take on that line, and upon reflection, agree with it. But the language defending the "drift" is incendiary, which hardens it into a solid wall rather than a bridgable gap. Plus the intentional blurring of news and opinion is non-professional, at least based on what I learned in journalism school.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-40778768887386285512013-03-17T21:53:11.499+08:002013-03-17T21:53:11.499+08:00"To the left we have MSNBC,CBS,ABC,NBC and CN..."To the left we have MSNBC,CBS,ABC,NBC and CNN. To the right, we have FOX News. ...."<br />That's exactly what I mean by narrow and shallow. The same faces appear as guests on all those channels. Like I said Wall Street, democrats, republicans versus Wall Street, democrats, republicans. That's one reason why third parties have never had any traction in America.<br /><br />"Atlantic, New Yorker, Economist." I'll grant they are left of center. But then look at how far to the right the center has moved. Now you have Counterpunch, the Nation, Mother Jones etc. Do their writers get invited to air their views on Sunday morning talk shows as much as the writers from Atlantic New Yorker and Economist? No. And it's not because they are not good writers or they are lunatics like Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, John Mc Cain, Sarah Palin, etc. They are not invited because their views are not mainstream. They have a different perspective and they argue their case intelligently and so ignorant people might get confused. So let the fantasy that MSNBC is far left and Fox is far right live on. When in fact both their perspectives are just slightly off-center. <br /><br />Narrow and shallow; incremental change makes for stability. -MBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-2988328361740008142013-03-17T21:31:44.220+08:002013-03-17T21:31:44.220+08:00Local elections YES! Local elections YES! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-60984731359538295512013-03-17T18:15:22.295+08:002013-03-17T18:15:22.295+08:00Ah, I'm a flatland road biker. Brittle bones. ...Ah, I'm a flatland road biker. Brittle bones. ahahahaha. But thanks for the invite.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-59274081386544386692013-03-17T17:33:46.706+08:002013-03-17T17:33:46.706+08:00What?... only been gone a few weeks and they slap ...What?... only been gone a few weeks and they slap you with electioneering? Take it as a compliment, now you can write about the other fun stuffs or you can go mountain biking with me.<br /><br />Wow!... got a lot of catching up to do.<br /><br />>EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-10927133123733828362013-03-16T16:48:18.525+08:002013-03-16T16:48:18.525+08:00See, that's the thing about this blog. We welc...See, that's the thing about this blog. We welcome contrarian views no matter how lunatic they might be. My most interesting class was English because that's when cheerleader Judy H***** sat next to me. Whooo hoo.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-38810635441157908642013-03-16T16:21:43.482+08:002013-03-16T16:21:43.482+08:00No way! History was the only interesting class in ...No way! History was the only interesting class in high school!Jhttp://thenutbox.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-56852978100549672632013-03-16T14:15:22.584+08:002013-03-16T14:15:22.584+08:00"Paging Dr. Watson. Paging Dr. Watson. Is Dr...."Paging Dr. Watson. Paging Dr. Watson. Is Dr. Watson in the house?"The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-84913313233496304112013-03-16T11:58:52.862+08:002013-03-16T11:58:52.862+08:00HA! HA! HA! There goes Freedom of Information !!!...HA! HA! HA! There goes Freedom of Information !!! There is freedom of information as long as information not coming from foreigners ? THIS IS PREPOSTEROUS !!! OUTRAGEOUS !!! <br /><br />Looks like FOI is going down the Filipino toilet. Debate in the House is not even started and COMELEC has already penned anti-FOI.Mariano Renatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920187760151863841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-61477969149343884912013-03-16T09:41:10.684+08:002013-03-16T09:41:10.684+08:00Or better yet, do as J pointed out and go with the...Or better yet, do as J pointed out and go with the South Korean solution that allows foreigners to engage at local levels.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-80195440803612635552013-03-16T09:39:34.959+08:002013-03-16T09:39:34.959+08:00I feel your pain, bro. My wife has ideas about run...I feel your pain, bro. My wife has ideas about running for Barangay Captain (she'd make a good one). Does that mean she cannot use our money? And I cannot give her any advice whatsoever? <br /><br />She'll be Captain and I'll be on the beach in Santa Monica.<br /><br />I do think on this one Immigration needs to think a little more deeply and clarify that Section 1 of COMELEC's regulations also apply to Foreigners. Maybe drop the authoritarian demeanor and do something refined.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-19206018261025420832013-03-16T09:32:12.015+08:002013-03-16T09:32:12.015+08:00"If you try to influence elections in any way..."If you try to influence elections in any way, you will be deported.". My wife is Filipina and intends to vote. As every vote counts, does this mean that I cannot influence her? Even my facial expressions might do when I look TV, does this mean that I only can look TV in a separate room? I don’t want to be deported, but this law seems to provide any immigration officer a ground to expel me. Please help.JosephIvonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-26703206985733833032013-03-16T09:29:30.119+08:002013-03-16T09:29:30.119+08:00That's an interesting view and I think the dis...That's an interesting view and I think the distinction is, what are people willing to do, sit on the sofa and watch Fox, or climb on the internet to explore and discover? The wide-ranging, deep and contrarian information is available (Atlantic, New Yorker, Economist, academic writings), but the broad masses of people are simply not politically active or deep, and the convenience culture that is America tends to put them on the sofa. I'd guess that the US has more diverse views than most. but that's not what the masses want.<br /><br />The political scene has hardened into political blocs that are themselves limited, for sure. There is little depth of diplomatic skill in the Congress, I fear.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-18444509135804200372013-03-16T09:10:02.289+08:002013-03-16T09:10:02.289+08:00"Profit drives content" also means Anony..."Profit drives content" also means Anonymous that is right? Politically the discussions in the US seem very narrow to me. Oddities all over the pace in the US media except for political matters. JosephIvonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-44129447984592398952013-03-16T08:18:51.563+08:002013-03-16T08:18:51.563+08:00Cha,
What do you mean not all the time? :-)
Your...Cha,<br /><br />What do you mean not all the time? :-)<br /><br />Your optimism of just affecting one person for the good is the start of Gladwell's The Tipping-Point argument. You see the ripples in the pond. I see the muddy water.<br /><br />I guess I am a revolutionary at heart and possess a revolutionary's impatience. Sometimes I feel so out there in my perceptions and opinions that I feel disconnected. But then I ask, why has the universe revealed itself in such a manner and at such a time?<br /><br />I guess the unfolding of the universe seems so slow from the perspective of one man's life.<br /><br />I guess - like a baby - man has to reach some stage of perfection by resisting and crying and screaming.<br /><br />I guess... we must soldier on. Edgar Loreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13363554010485644899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-62647673544683742322013-03-16T07:55:55.348+08:002013-03-16T07:55:55.348+08:00Thanks, mb.
What the COMELEC should now do is con...Thanks, mb.<br /><br />What the COMELEC should now do is consider these variety of opinions and clarify their ruling.<br /><br />I gather you are near to the gods. Can you bend their ears?Edgar Loreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13363554010485644899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-38969152924535466082013-03-16T07:12:45.556+08:002013-03-16T07:12:45.556+08:00Edgar,
"Are we making sense?"
Most lik...Edgar,<br /><br />"Are we making sense?"<br /><br />Most likely not to everyone and not all of the time. <br /><br />But if we can make sense to even just any one person every once in a while, I can actually be happy with that. If that someone is able to see things differently even for just a day because of something he read here, then our efforts have not been wasted. Maybe that person will remember and carry it through to the next day. Maybe he will share that with his wife, a friend, or a colleague to whom it will also make sense.<br /><br />Generating and celebrating short term wins is just as important as that final victory bash. The former is what makes the latter even possible.<br /><br />"Are we making a dent?"<br /><br />Probably not in the biggest way. Maybe we're even just barely scratching the surface. <br /><br />And this is the part where I throw in the famous Sotto..er..Kennedy quote about ripples and walls of resistance. Or maybe not.<br /><br /><br />Chanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-69329858578794577782013-03-16T05:58:22.909+08:002013-03-16T05:58:22.909+08:00Interesting point. I agree that brutal things have...Interesting point. I agree that brutal things have been done, both American and Japanese. Filipinos are unbearably forgiving, too. I agree. Still, I'd argue that the America of today is not the America of 1898. And the Japan of 2013 is not the Japan of 1945. It would be equally remiss for Filipinos to penalize the Philippines today to exorcise past angers over historical racial brutality. The past is past.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-45627151856869130152013-03-16T05:52:37.632+08:002013-03-16T05:52:37.632+08:00Bingo. Spot on. Of course, as I recall, I detested...Bingo. Spot on. Of course, as I recall, I detested history classes. Those were the classes where I perfected the skill of sleeping whilst my eyes still followed the Professor around as he lectured on and on and on . . .The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-15411250518918631162013-03-16T05:50:32.703+08:002013-03-16T05:50:32.703+08:00Thank's Zion. I don't have to work for a l...Thank's Zion. I don't have to work for a living so I can study during the day. :)The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-31824217071633682932013-03-16T05:49:35.069+08:002013-03-16T05:49:35.069+08:00Anon, I share the concern, actually, about foreign...Anon, I share the concern, actually, about foreign influence. But the solution is not to shut people up. It is to pass FOI and open politics up for inquiry, and to be vigilant (like foreigners undercover joining discussion threads to sow divisive propaganda).The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-31383780073453334862013-03-16T05:45:15.558+08:002013-03-16T05:45:15.558+08:00J, yes, you crystalize the matter well, and I agre...J, yes, you crystalize the matter well, and I agree with your approach. The key here is Immigration, not COMELEC. Immigration could say "Personal opinions are allowed foreigers under Section 1, but direct engagement in elections or funding of candidates is not. We are pleased that so many foreign residents take interest in the well-being of the Philippines." But that's not what we got. We got "If you try to influence elections in any way, you will be deported."The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-35863386427816036232013-03-16T05:35:21.225+08:002013-03-16T05:35:21.225+08:00MB, if communists don't have a voice on Americ...MB, if communists don't have a voice on American media it's because there aren't enough of thtem to matter, in the ratings. You will find them on college stations or operating their own publications. Profit drives content in the U.S. for the major national media. But on cable there are a million different perspectives, including two channels dedicated to full time coverage of the Senate and House. I'm afraid I dont see the lack of perspectives you cite. I see tremendous variety.<br /><br />If there are limitations, it is in the "ignorance" column with Americans, not the media. Football and guns take precedent over history and science. But that is a subject for a different blog than this one.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-63272188405990954242013-03-16T05:25:22.484+08:002013-03-16T05:25:22.484+08:00My first task for my wife was to read about Aginal...My first task for my wife was to read about Aginaldo and the Filipino American war. She was very confused about this event. The anti Americanism and the lack of understanding of history does a great damage to the image of whites and not just Americans. From the 6 million Filipinos who were murdered by the Americans to the blood sucking imperialist Kanos who just use the Filipinos I heard so many different kind of examples. This is really awful and this mess should be cleared out. I wish I could be a Japanese for one day and provoke them and ask them why they don't hate me. Attilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06669976067539551920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-24899721343985114432013-03-16T05:20:07.922+08:002013-03-16T05:20:07.922+08:00South Korea allows foreign residents to vote in lo...South Korea allows foreign residents to vote in local elections. Even xenophobic Japan has once discussed the issue (the erstwhile ruling DPJ allows foreigners to be card-carrying members). The idea being that since they have a stake in their local communities, they should allowed to vote for their mayor or governor. But, as non-citizens, they can't vote in national elections since that already involves the nation's destiny.Jhttp://thenutbox.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com