tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post6076719084322256196..comments2023-06-10T20:22:01.348+08:00Comments on The Society of Honor by Joe America: A Missed Train Never Catches UpThe Society of Honorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-27710875042470220422011-11-30T18:19:29.364+08:002011-11-30T18:19:29.364+08:00"I don't understand the Anti-Pinoy/Get Re..."I don't understand the Anti-Pinoy/Get Real crowd's strategy of linking this hacienda to Noynoy Aquino. Even if the supposed crimes of the Cojuancos where to be proven true, how does this link to Noynoy?..."<br /><br />Well, you can't help it. See, Noynoy's main selling point was not any personal achievement because he had none but that he was the son of a democracy icon/saint and a hero. In short he became president by virtue of genealogy. Problem is as recent revelations tend to show now, his genealogy is not so pure, saintly or heroic after allAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-27268298452125476822011-11-28T17:36:23.935+08:002011-11-28T17:36:23.935+08:00MB, true, the consumption variable is key in terms...MB, true, the consumption variable is key in terms of overbirthing, but if you eat less rice, you have to eat potatoes, and still have a problem with production. I'm not really an ag specialist, but I know California is one the the top rice producing states in the US, most from the Sacramento Delta. Some rice is planted via airplane. Between A, for US, and Z, for Philippines, there must be a better way than individual farmers planting small plots and drying the rice in the middle of the National Highway.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-90622760086134445682011-11-28T17:01:59.231+08:002011-11-28T17:01:59.231+08:00@ Attila: Yes, it is true. The daily wage of the H...@ Attila: Yes, it is true. The daily wage of the Hacienda Luisita workers is P7.50.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-3213620298634187412011-11-28T16:54:29.237+08:002011-11-28T16:54:29.237+08:00Joe,
The rice problem has been with us for a very...Joe,<br /><br />The rice problem has been with us for a very long time. I remember my grandfather telling me he used to go to vietnam in the 20s to import rice. I think our low output has more to do with arable hectarage, weather, and population growth rather than the size of farms. We have been able to increase rice production through science but unfortunately science has never caught up with our population growth. I think we should just eat less rice.manuelbuencaminonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-50654013189143030332011-11-28T05:44:10.172+08:002011-11-28T05:44:10.172+08:00The standard labor rate in Biliran is P170 per day...The standard labor rate in Biliran is P170 per day. <br /><br />I agree, in looking at farm laborers as individuals, that they work much too hard for much too little. The problem is that giving them the land does not correct the circumstance of their condition, it only tides things over for a short while. My argument is for permanent, productive, profitable reconfiguration of Philippine farming. Looking at the Hacienda Aquino payout as any kind of solution is like looking at a bandaid as a cure.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-64166425994354744162011-11-28T02:18:27.177+08:002011-11-28T02:18:27.177+08:007.50Php a day? When I visited Sugar cane field wo...7.50Php a day? When I visited Sugar cane field workers in Sagay, Negros for my photo project, they told me that they were making 80php a day. It is still only 2 dollars a day but not 7.50php<br />Are there such differences? Am I missing something?Attilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06669976067539551920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-1055296628963393422011-11-27T23:35:19.985+08:002011-11-27T23:35:19.985+08:00I'm in favor of actually redistributing lands ...I'm in favor of actually redistributing lands to the Hacienda Luisita farmers instead of the SDO. Those poor folks work under the heat of the sun for the criminal sum of P7.50 A DAY. They really deserve a break.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-49375655544599222382011-11-27T16:26:54.931+08:002011-11-27T16:26:54.931+08:00brianitus, it seems to me the correct term would b...brianitus, it seems to me the correct term would be a "farming" nation. Not agriculture, which suggests science and machines are used. And not agribusiness, which considers a focus on exports and profits.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-28266570974287931282011-11-27T11:51:56.314+08:002011-11-27T11:51:56.314+08:00Joe, there was a boom in cooperatives back in the ...Joe, there was a boom in cooperatives back in the 80s or 90s. However, the system sort of suffered from abuse. <br /><br />From what I know, there are some really good cooperatives out there. There are those that invest in mechanization of farms.<br /><br />It's actually funny that a lot of Pinoys consider this country to be "agricultural" when there's hardly anyone investing in making it a modern practice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-29510744777161183612011-11-27T11:47:51.514+08:002011-11-27T11:47:51.514+08:00brianitus, yes, done correctly, there is big money...brianitus, yes, done correctly, there is big money to be made in agriculture. Cooperatives are a good way to bring power to producers. I'm surprised there are not more of them. I think younger thinkers who like agribusiness ought to go to the US to study at the University of California Davis, or Colorado State University, or other good ag schools, then come back here and make a ton of money doing things the modern way. I'd do that rather than take up HRM or technology which are one-way tracks to nowhere for most students.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-79083938103306111092011-11-27T10:01:44.890+08:002011-11-27T10:01:44.890+08:00Agriculture is a good investment. This is how I v...Agriculture is a good investment. This is how I view it:<br /><br />1. Population will grow<br />2. Population will increase demand for resources (food, fiber, fuel)<br />3. Efficient agriculture can fill that demand<br /><br />If one knows how to play it smart, they'll make lots of money off agriculture. I think Filipinos should really consider revitalizing the farmer cooperatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-5880471957838824642011-11-26T16:56:53.726+08:002011-11-26T16:56:53.726+08:00Anon, those sites have an agenda, and are committe...Anon, those sites have an agenda, and are committed to it because they have pushed themselves so far down the anti-Aquino path, that they cannot go back, or they'd lose credibility. So they will grab anything, twist it, amplify it, to win the argument. That is how they confirm that they are merely what they condemn, people who cannot be objective, who are reactive, and have to win to preserve self exteem.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-44544842638231456872011-11-26T10:38:06.505+08:002011-11-26T10:38:06.505+08:00I don't understand the Anti-Pinoy/Get Real cro...I don't understand the Anti-Pinoy/Get Real crowd's strategy of linking this hacienda to Noynoy Aquino. Even if the supposed crimes of the Cojuancos where to be proven true, how does this link to Noynoy? These conspiracy theorists delude themselves into thinking that Noynoy is the evil mastermind ordering the execution of farmers.<br /><br />If they wish to judge Noynoy fairly then judge him by his own actions. Judge him by the fruits of his presidency and not by deeds of his corrupt and annoying (Kris) relatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com