tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post5145307364264799159..comments2023-06-10T20:22:01.348+08:00Comments on The Society of Honor by Joe America: The American Dumb BellThe Society of Honorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-48535422461065373772011-08-08T19:30:54.319+08:002011-08-08T19:30:54.319+08:00MB, glad you enjoyed the article. And I agree that...MB, glad you enjoyed the article. And I agree that foundational values are more important than the "transactions" that rile people so (the most trivial being what kind of car the man drives; good Lord). And the US is certainly at risk, not just from debt (also transactional), but from loss of the foundational value that the union is more important than the candidate for office.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-19457260455224761512011-08-08T17:57:23.822+08:002011-08-08T17:57:23.822+08:00Good post Joe. Another bell curve would show that...Good post Joe. Another bell curve would show that slowly but surely the nation is moving away from cynicism and back to idealism. A nation can only move forward when it is fueled by idealism. Look at America, it stalled when it moved away from idealism, when its political leaders turned cynical, relying on polls and the flow of campaign financing rather than the ideals the nation was founded on to guide their actions. America is in a shithole of debt, and pulling the whole world down with it, and both democrats and republicans cater to their constituencies instead of facing the problem and finding a solution. Red state versus blue state instead of stars and stripes. Anyway, you may think of me as a staunch Aquino defender but the truth is the man is not as important as what he stands for. I campaigned and voted for him because of all the candidates it was him more than any other who understood that economics and all the other problems facing the country will never be solved unless we united behind something that is bigger than just filling our stomachs. There is a difference between being cash-strapped and poor. The former can be remedied, the latter will not be solved by all the money in the world because it is an attitude. That is what this president is trying to change, that we measure ourselves not in the number of toys that we have but by our nobility.manuelbuencaminonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-32673633671536678102011-08-08T09:12:34.868+08:002011-08-08T09:12:34.868+08:00No, I think he is speaking of John Quincy Adams.No, I think he is speaking of John Quincy Adams.Expatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-73717273056454899042011-08-08T06:26:51.332+08:002011-08-08T06:26:51.332+08:00UP,
You are speaking of George W Bush, perhaps?UP,<br /><br />You are speaking of George W Bush, perhaps?The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-3910014917255007162011-08-08T01:48:04.239+08:002011-08-08T01:48:04.239+08:00hey, BenK: you already know what the conclusion ...hey, BenK: you already know what the conclusion is when governance is decided by popularity vote --- he/she who is child of former president wins!!!!UP nn gRDhttp://www.csmonitor.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-41361569014072544042011-08-07T17:41:17.971+08:002011-08-07T17:41:17.971+08:00-1000 Antipinoys-1000 AntipinoysLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-62036530586382021912011-08-07T15:53:31.307+08:002011-08-07T15:53:31.307+08:00+1 Joe.+1 Joe.Cocoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03079637494529705906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-35073317010242569742011-08-07T15:51:22.373+08:002011-08-07T15:51:22.373+08:00GabbyD wins by knockout!GabbyD wins by knockout!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-43046844768884608932011-08-07T12:10:11.777+08:002011-08-07T12:10:11.777+08:00GabbyD,
Most eloquent, and respectful. If this is...GabbyD,<br /><br />Most eloquent, and respectful. If this is your new argumentative style, I like it . . .The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-6472909554221795432011-08-07T06:03:05.258+08:002011-08-07T06:03:05.258+08:00i think we can agree that there is lots of things ...i think we can agree that there is lots of things a president ought to do. we agree that making customs a more efficient place is part of that. <br /><br />what i just demonstrated above is that the admin is cognizant and certianly IS NOT ignoring customs. <br /><br />but i agree, this is a first step. only a first step. but give them that, at least. (this is the unfairness i've always wondered about in your criticism. to say that they are ignoring it is plain wrong).<br /><br />now, i have no idea if angeles (?) is the guilty party. i certainly havent read any. but the commissioner is tasked to run customs and investigate anomalies. give him a chance. <br /><br />i wont bother to ask you for a link. but if u have inside info to share, it would be helpful to everyone. right?GabbyDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-20741552935689631562011-08-06T21:20:01.364+08:002011-08-06T21:20:01.364+08:00No, I vigorously raise the red flag of b.s. on all...No, I vigorously raise the red flag of b.s. on all y'all for your selective appreciation. This customs issue is EXACTLY the sort of thing he based his entire campaign on - it literally defines the situation that "Walang Korupsyon, Walang Mahirap" purportedly means to correct. And when the deputy speaking is the one upon whom much of the suspicion is leveled for the situation, that makes it appear as though the One who accepts the mantle of being the leader of the anti-corruption campaign is himself being selective in its application.<br /><br />The existence of wang-wangs probably didn't result in the loss of P3.6 billion in government revenue. This situation did. And for damn sure somebody's going to end up a little more "mahirap" than they need to be because of it, somewhere down the line. <br /><br />Look, you guys can enjoy the warm and fuzzy feelings all you like. I'll watch the numbers, and watch how the rhetoric translates into measurable results. I'm not betting it will.Ben Kritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655896560712809421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-37550051569194206702011-08-06T16:27:10.177+08:002011-08-06T16:27:10.177+08:00Nice line of commentary here whilst I was napping ...Nice line of commentary here whilst I was napping amongst the bamboo. GabbyD, you said what I woulda said. Indeed, it is the breadth of the anti-corruption initiatives that leads me to believe this is no "witch hunt". And it is the sign of a good administrator, not a bad one, to let his deputies do their jobs.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-20835414077920363382011-08-06T11:27:06.946+08:002011-08-06T11:27:06.946+08:00Kapow!!!
GabbyD 2, BenK 0
Keep knocking him down...Kapow!!!<br /><br />GabbyD 2, BenK 0<br /><br />Keep knocking him down bro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-85389735729513461002011-08-06T10:51:03.782+08:002011-08-06T10:51:03.782+08:00why does it have to have "aquino said"?
...why does it have to have "aquino said"?<br /><br />the secretaries are their own people, AND they reflect the will of the executive. (these two things arent contradictory, even tho it may seem so).<br /><br />also, aquino isnt investigating arroyo. the DOJ is.GabbyDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-72361722982045517762011-08-06T10:47:17.635+08:002011-08-06T10:47:17.635+08:00And that article has the words "President Aqu...And that article has the words "President Aquino said..." exactly how many times?<br /><br />Yeah, that's what I thought.Ben Kritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655896560712809421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-73031075716567820672011-08-06T10:34:17.877+08:002011-08-06T10:34:17.877+08:00GabbyD,
You just OWNED BenK. Congrats!
HAHAHAHA!...GabbyD,<br /><br />You just OWNED BenK. Congrats!<br /><br />HAHAHAHA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-23910093917755409762011-08-06T10:24:46.559+08:002011-08-06T10:24:46.559+08:00@benk
http://www.gov.ph/2011/07/08/customs-probe-...@benk<br /><br />http://www.gov.ph/2011/07/08/customs-probe-on-missing-containers-did-batangas-port-receive-cargo/GabbyDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-34791593752857474792011-08-06T09:57:06.581+08:002011-08-06T09:57:06.581+08:00Personally, I'd be more comfortable with Aquin...Personally, I'd be more comfortable with Aquino investigating Arroyo if I detected a genuine, objective intention on his part to pursue corruption wherever it's detected. I don't.<br /><br />Case in point: Somebody point me to a link where he has expressed the same level of outrage over 1,910 shipping containers disappearing between Manila and Batangas between January and May of this year. You know, the time period he was president and his preferred former basketball commissioner was in charge of Customs.<br /><br />As a matter of fact, somebody point me to something where he's said <i>anything</i> about the issue at all, outrage or not.<br /><br />I don't have to have grievances. All I have to do is look at hard numbers and results.Ben Kritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655896560712809421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-67085059154394093512011-08-06T08:48:31.276+08:002011-08-06T08:48:31.276+08:00I don't understand why the Get Realists are ag...I don't understand why the Get Realists are against Noynoy's Administration investigating Arroyo. How can the President change the culture of corruption if he tolerates it?<br /><br />And still, Benign0, in his eloquence will spin spin spin and spin this and tell us to "move on" and leave GMA alone. Seriously? Seriously? SERIOUSLY??? And you consider him an intellectual?Bayanihannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-47602238626079539162011-08-06T08:38:19.840+08:002011-08-06T08:38:19.840+08:00yeah, i like this one. :) i enjoyed the explanatio...yeah, i like this one. :) i enjoyed the explanation of the normal curve.GabbyDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-70906212807439582032011-08-06T08:23:00.443+08:002011-08-06T08:23:00.443+08:00Unlike BenK, you call it as it is Joe. You have no...Unlike BenK, you call it as it is Joe. You have no agenda and no grievances against Aquino. I also don't see you as an ideological fanatic like Benign0 and Ilda. You give fair and reasonable arguments. <br /><br />And most important: if people challenge your positions, your rebuttals are respectful (a concept that seems alien to Anti-Pinoys).<br /><br />That is why I often visit your blog.Expatnoreply@blogger.com