tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post2692831962729653666..comments2023-06-10T20:22:01.348+08:00Comments on The Society of Honor by Joe America: Blogging BangsamoroThe Society of Honorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-2455855522151338302012-11-21T06:23:39.257+08:002012-11-21T06:23:39.257+08:00Sabah, yes, good question. I was reading on the hi...Sabah, yes, good question. I was reading on the history and why the Philippines has rightful claim. But there is a point at which inaction is action that says "we don't care all that much". It seems to me the Philippines has conceded Sabah by inaction. Any drive for action would have to come from within Sabah. May happen . . . but is not a part of the current exercise, which is strenuous enough.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-41904500104855170062012-11-21T03:28:10.116+08:002012-11-21T03:28:10.116+08:00"Malaysia, however, is not a neutral third pa..."Malaysia, however, is not a neutral third party. :p"<br /><br />I was about to comment the same. Where is Sabah in the picture?<br /><br />VAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-12706167622822260852012-10-20T21:03:56.066+08:002012-10-20T21:03:56.066+08:00Oh, thanks man!Oh, thanks man!Jhttp://thenutbox.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-69017516631561816772012-10-20T19:52:21.539+08:002012-10-20T19:52:21.539+08:00Ha. "Gracious host and self-interested partic...Ha. "Gracious host and self-interested participant".<br /><br />I've added your blog to the Philippine Blog Center found here: http://philippineblogcenter.blogspot.com/<br /><br />It's my neutral facilitation to provide updates on well written Philippine blogs. You deserve a spot. Good writing.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-76409638278802150022012-10-20T18:35:13.941+08:002012-10-20T18:35:13.941+08:00Not a neutral facilitator. Historically been suppo...Not a neutral facilitator. Historically been supportive of the Moro rebellion, even funded it I assume.Jhttp://thenutbox.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-24883058664544874822012-10-18T18:26:53.940+08:002012-10-18T18:26:53.940+08:00Okay, yes. "Facilitator?"Okay, yes. "Facilitator?"The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-6111017012780403832012-10-18T18:17:09.539+08:002012-10-18T18:17:09.539+08:00Malaysia, however, is not a neutral third party. :...Malaysia, however, is not a neutral third party. :pJhttp://thenutbox.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-57593555121438997282012-10-17T10:06:21.500+08:002012-10-17T10:06:21.500+08:00Edgar
Principal mindset is that they are always th...Edgar<br />Principal mindset is that they are always the oppressed disdained religious minority worlwide leading to armed struggle and separatism. <br /><br />Johnny LinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-54945223070410415382012-10-17T07:29:47.362+08:002012-10-17T07:29:47.362+08:00Yes. I wish your comment could run as the headline...Yes. I wish your comment could run as the headline article in the Sulu Daily Gazette Tribune. The challenge is now from Muslims to Muslims, and that is the importance of the agreement. "You want responsibility? Here, have a little. Now prove you deserve it."The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-60920455674173257942012-10-17T07:12:52.183+08:002012-10-17T07:12:52.183+08:00I believe there is goodwill for Muslims on the par...I believe there is goodwill for Muslims on the part of the government and the nation.<br /><br />I think the biggest obstacle to rapprochement is the mindset of Muslims which is basically one of separatism and armed struggle. This mindset has been set in concrete through centuries.<br /><br />The limited success of the sultanate of Aceh in Indonesia provides a model for Bangsamoro. Wikipedia records that ex-guerrillas have set up resorts that attract foreign tourists.<br /><br />Can Filipino Muslims who have taken up arms as a means of livelihood through banditry and kidnapping, can they make the considerable leap of extracting dollars from wallets through the smiles of hospitality rather than through the scowls of ransom? It is a radical leap that requires an internal about-face of how one sees oneself and the "other".Edgar Loreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13363554010485644899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-2602675357023407632012-10-17T06:07:18.943+08:002012-10-17T06:07:18.943+08:00Maybe the gap is too big to reach across, American...Maybe the gap is too big to reach across, American ideals and hard core Muslim ideals, and that makes for mistrust. Or maybe replace "ideals" in that sentence with "self interest".The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-37550802727565202932012-10-17T06:05:13.558+08:002012-10-17T06:05:13.558+08:00Yes, maybe naive. Maybe filled with hope that ther...Yes, maybe naive. Maybe filled with hope that there is a core of responsibility that will get broader. The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-11847003144168501392012-10-16T22:31:35.658+08:002012-10-16T22:31:35.658+08:00En banc affirmed Sereno's TRO.
8 plus Sereno ...En banc affirmed Sereno's TRO.<br /><br />8 plus Sereno unanimously TRO'd Comelec to unseat Maliksi.<br /><br />Carpio and Perez on wellness leave, Reyes out of the country, del Castillo and Brion on personal leave.baycashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08051100094941299606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-35023826175900868152012-10-16T22:05:19.668+08:002012-10-16T22:05:19.668+08:00Muslims policing Muslims? Too Naive.
Shiites and ...Muslims policing Muslims? Too Naive.<br />Shiites and Sunni in Iraq are perfect example of power struggle and recognition. <br /><br />Character, character, character!<br /><br />Filipinos are known for paying debt of gratitude to the point of subservience. You should know this by now Joe. Filipino Muslims are the exceptions. Ampatuan exemplifies that character. Maguindanao massacre would not have happened if the clan respected all the good deeds GMA extended to them. <br /><br />Johnny LinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-73724978310613706252012-10-16T21:38:46.986+08:002012-10-16T21:38:46.986+08:00The clear message of the "framework" is ...The clear message of the "framework" is Muslims trust Pnoy. They didn't trust GMA with MOA-AD. Ever wonder why US was absent with framework but not with MOA-AD?. Maybe Muslims also don't trust Americans that much.<br /><br />DocBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-212861824355478452012-10-16T17:34:35.044+08:002012-10-16T17:34:35.044+08:00The President's tin ear on freedom of speech s...The President's tin ear on freedom of speech surprised me. Even after all the criticism of the Bill, he still has not come forward to say freedom of speech is to be cherished. I wonder if the authoritarian bent that we see in Philippine top leadership is raising its ugly head with Mr. President. I'd guess he chartered the cybercrime law in good faith, but it got twisted into a thuggish animal. Now he can't figure out how to put it back in the box without stabbing DOJ in the back; I figure DOJ has essentially done his bidding on this.<br /><br />It's bizarre to me, the failure to cherish this essential freedom.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-83741933565560600822012-10-16T17:30:39.440+08:002012-10-16T17:30:39.440+08:00Yes, I share your qualms. The good points are that...Yes, I share your qualms. The good points are that finally Muslims will be policing Muslims, rather than it being a war between states, and maybe Guingona will get a chance to shine and lead the Mindanao congressional agenda.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-51252479158344578932012-10-16T16:16:52.383+08:002012-10-16T16:16:52.383+08:00And thank goodness for that!
The Senate, on the ...And thank goodness for that! <br /><br />The Senate, on the other hand is on a downward trajectory. Chanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-35782271927837229822012-10-16T10:24:25.636+08:002012-10-16T10:24:25.636+08:00Joe
Put it on record
I'm pragmatic on this ac...Joe<br /><br />Put it on record<br />I'm pragmatic on this accord. For some reason gut feeling tells me that those self proclaimed trouble makers not included in the settlement would create trouble derailing the peace process. Honor system of some Muslim leaders are just not trustworthy. Abuse of kindness and tolerance seemingly prevail. Misuari and Ampatuan are perfect examples.<br /><br />Historically, ignored Muslim leaders in peace accords all over the world, since the time of the Moors in Spain, in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan,and Egypt, mount anti government insurgencies promoting their personal interest of recognition, greed and power grab disregarding peace pacts. Remember, Carter, Sadat and Begin peace pact as a prelude to PLO Israel accord. Mubarak mounted a coup against Sadat afterwards. Israel is still fighting the Palestinians up to the present. <br /><br />By 2016 at the end of PNoy term, history will judge my skepticism. So far Abu Sayyaf faction already massacred 3 soldiers. <br /><br />Johnny LinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-1551785189266814522012-10-16T10:18:56.066+08:002012-10-16T10:18:56.066+08:00Hold on to your seats! We have a roller-coaster o...Hold on to your seats! We have a roller-coaster of a President!<br /><br />One day, down; next day, up. Isn't it exciting?Edgar Loreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13363554010485644899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-26581811734555648442012-10-16T09:12:47.558+08:002012-10-16T09:12:47.558+08:00Okay, I get both points. Thanks. "Cryptic&quo...Okay, I get both points. Thanks. "Cryptic" is a good word. Sounds like what it is. Onematopeia.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-52359756209316620752012-10-16T09:04:20.134+08:002012-10-16T09:04:20.134+08:00Cryptic?
Sorry.
1. PNoy keeping his promise (Pro...Cryptic?<br /><br />Sorry.<br /><br />1. PNoy keeping his promise (Promise 51)<br />2. PNoy's appointment of a possible "judicial parvenu" (borrowing Snv's description) will forever be judgedbaycashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08051100094941299606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-69490498768326412462012-10-16T08:21:16.511+08:002012-10-16T08:21:16.511+08:00You are writing mysteries this morning. Sereno iss...You are writing mysteries this morning. Sereno issued the TRO by herself? A TRO to me means, "wait, we need to study this first", and is an exercise in prudence. It isn't a judgment.The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-67699801277060738892012-10-16T08:17:51.355+08:002012-10-16T08:17:51.355+08:00President Aquino's Promise 51 as recorded by A...President Aquino's Promise 51 as recorded by ABS-CBN:<br /><br />"I will immediately convene the Oversight Committee on the Organic Act on Muslim Mindanao (RA 9054) and complete a review and assessment of the implementation of the law. I will issue an Executive Order reviving/extending the function of the Oversight Committee, which was last convened before 2004 and which never completed its task, and impose a deadline for the completion of its work."<br /><br />The followup report is confusing to me. Maybe you can cut to the chase? Elections were deferred to 2013. A report on the Organic Act was to be made to Congress within 6 months of . . . what? The president's appointment of OIC, or the elections?? Is your point that the President did not follow up on getting rid of the laws that restrict Muslim independence?<br /><br />I'm afraid I need help on this one. The Society of Honorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02536906267332687130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4855856123871700301.post-78547034087288127242012-10-16T08:03:17.077+08:002012-10-16T08:03:17.077+08:00Re: the SC...
We'll await en banc's opini...Re: the SC...<br /><br />We'll await en banc's opinion on Sereno's unilateral TRO on Comelec's unseating of Maliksibaycashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08051100094941299606noreply@blogger.com